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Subject: The lost tribes of Israel

To:            heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
From:          roy dirlam <holbert@iglobal.net>
Subject:       The lost tribes of Isreal

Hello Eddie.  I thought you might find this interesting. Roy


It must be remembered that not all Israel was deported to Assyria in 722
B.C. , only the leadership and military establishment.  Years later,
Hezekiah called the remnant of Israel left in the land to come and keep the
passover in Jerusalem (II Chr 30:5-6).  Many came from the tribes of
Ephraim, Manasser, Issachar and Zebulun (II Chr 30:18).  Even before the
Assyrian captivity, a large number from the northern tribes came to Judah
(II Chr 11:16-17) and identified with the House of David (II Chr 19:4, 30:l,
10-11, 25-26, 35:17-18)


All tribes were represented in Judah after the Assyrian invasion.  All
tribes were represented in Judah (Ezra 7:1-10 & 9:11) when she returned to
the land after the Babylonian captivity (536 B.C.) for they are referred to
as Israel (II Chr 12:6, 21:2, 28:19).  Christ offered Himself to the "The
Lost Sheep of the House of Israel" (all the tribes).  The tribes are
mentioned as existing in the land during New Testament times (Mt 4:13, 15,
Lk 21:36, Acts 4:36, Phil 3:5, Jas 1:1.  Peter used "Jews"', Acts 2:5,
"Judea" l4, "Men of Israel" 36 as being synonymous terms.  Thus the twelve
tribes are represented within the Tribe of Judah and not destroyed or lost
as some teach today.

In my humble opinion, Ezekiel 37 was fulfilled when Jews came out of Babylon
in the year of 536.  

>From Eddie:

        Roy, I don't know where you got this theory but it is faulty 
for several reasons.

       The HOUSE OF JACOB (all 12 tribes) are Israel (Exodus 19:3).
The tribe is Judah is ONLY one tribe.  Jacob had 12 sons who became 
the heads of the 12 tribes of Israel. During the time of Solomon, 
they were divided into Northern Kingdom (House of Israel) and the
Southern Kingdom (the house of Judah). As you mention above, the 
Northern Kingdom was taken captive to Assyria. While it may be true 
that some members from the dispersed Northern tribes may have joined 
themselves to Judah, the majority of those from the Northern Kingdom 
were dispersed into the nations of the world as G-d prophecied 
through the prophet Hosea in Hosea chapter 1.

           Next,  Ezekiel 37 could not have possibly been fulfilled 
when the Jews returned from Babylon. First of all, only a REMNANT 
returned. There was a SIGNIFICANT Jewish presence in Babylon for over 
1,000 years. The Talmud (Oral Law) which was written from 200 C.E. to 
600 C.E. (Commen Era or  A.D) was written in Babylon. This is almost 
1,000 years after the first Jews returned from Babylon. But, the 
Bible is clear in Ezra and Nehemiah that only a REMNANT (a minority) 
returned. In fact, the largest Jewish population at the time of 
Yeshua/Jesus was not in the land of Israel but in the land of 

           Finally, let us read how the prophecy reads in Ezekiel 37 
to see that it could not have possibly been fulfilled when a REMNANT 
of the Jews returned from Babylon.

Ezekiel 37:15-27:

"The word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Moreover, thou son of 
man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the 
children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write 
upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of 
Israel and his companions: And join them one to another into one 
stick: and they shall become one in thine hand ... And say unto them, 
Thus saith, the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel 
from AMONG THE HEATHEN whither they have gone and will GATHER THEM ON 
EVERY SIDE (North, South, East and West) and BRING THEM INTO THEIR 
OWN LAND: and I will make the ONE NATION in the LAND upon the 
MOUTAINS OF ISRAEL (Judea/Samaria --- The West Bank) and ONE KING 
shall be KING to them all: and they shall be no more two nations ... 
Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols ... 
and David my servant shall be KING over them  and they shall also 
walk in my judgments and observe my statutes and do them and they 
shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant 
wherein your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell therein, even 
they, and their children and their children's children FOREVER ... My 
tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I wil be their God and they 
shall be my people".

           VERY CLEARLY this prophecy was NOT fulfilled when the 
REMNANT of the Jews returned to the land of Israel from Babylon in 
536 B.C.E.  For the prophecy in Ezekiel 37 states the following:

#1) G-d would gather them from ALL SIDES (all the nations)
       (Ezek 37:21)
#2) They would have one KING over them. This is a reference to 
        (Zechariah 14:9) (Ezek 37:21-22)
#3) They would dwell in the land of Israel in the mountains of Israel 
        (the West Bank) FOREVER (Ezek 37:25)
#4) They would keep G-d's Torah and not break it (Ezek 37:24)
#5) G-d would set His tabernacle among them (Ezek 37:27)
       In fact, this prophecy has still not been fulfilled to this 
day. This is a second coming prophetic event. It is placed in the 
book of Ezekiel between chapter 36 (Israel becoming a nation after 
being scattered among the nations of the world) and the war with Gog 
and Magog (Ezek 38-39). Then, Ezek 40-48 describes the Temple during 
the Messianic Age. So, very clearly, this prophecy could not have 
been fulfilled in 536 B.C.E (Before the Common Era). 

                                                   Eddie Chumney        


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