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Subject: The lost tribes of Israel
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From: roy dirlam <holbert@iglobal.net>
Subject: The lost tribes of Isreal
Hello Eddie. I thought you might find this interesting. Roy
WHERE ARE THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL?
It must be remembered that not all Israel was deported to Assyria in 722
B.C. , only the leadership and military establishment. Years later,
Hezekiah called the remnant of Israel left in the land to come and keep the
passover in Jerusalem (II Chr 30:5-6). Many came from the tribes of
Ephraim, Manasser, Issachar and Zebulun (II Chr 30:18). Even before the
Assyrian captivity, a large number from the northern tribes came to Judah
(II Chr 11:16-17) and identified with the House of David (II Chr 19:4, 30:l,
10-11, 25-26, 35:17-18)
CONCLUSION
All tribes were represented in Judah after the Assyrian invasion. All
tribes were represented in Judah (Ezra 7:1-10 & 9:11) when she returned to
the land after the Babylonian captivity (536 B.C.) for they are referred to
as Israel (II Chr 12:6, 21:2, 28:19). Christ offered Himself to the "The
Lost Sheep of the House of Israel" (all the tribes). The tribes are
mentioned as existing in the land during New Testament times (Mt 4:13, 15,
Lk 21:36, Acts 4:36, Phil 3:5, Jas 1:1. Peter used "Jews"', Acts 2:5,
"Judea" l4, "Men of Israel" 36 as being synonymous terms. Thus the twelve
tribes are represented within the Tribe of Judah and not destroyed or lost
as some teach today.
In my humble opinion, Ezekiel 37 was fulfilled when Jews came out of Babylon
in the year of 536.
>From Eddie:
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Roy, I don't know where you got this theory but it is faulty
for several reasons.
The HOUSE OF JACOB (all 12 tribes) are Israel (Exodus 19:3).
The tribe is Judah is ONLY one tribe. Jacob had 12 sons who became
the heads of the 12 tribes of Israel. During the time of Solomon,
they were divided into Northern Kingdom (House of Israel) and the
Southern Kingdom (the house of Judah). As you mention above, the
Northern Kingdom was taken captive to Assyria. While it may be true
that some members from the dispersed Northern tribes may have joined
themselves to Judah, the majority of those from the Northern Kingdom
were dispersed into the nations of the world as G-d prophecied
through the prophet Hosea in Hosea chapter 1.
Next, Ezekiel 37 could not have possibly been fulfilled
when the Jews returned from Babylon. First of all, only a REMNANT
returned. There was a SIGNIFICANT Jewish presence in Babylon for over
1,000 years. The Talmud (Oral Law) which was written from 200 C.E. to
600 C.E. (Commen Era or A.D) was written in Babylon. This is almost
1,000 years after the first Jews returned from Babylon. But, the
Bible is clear in Ezra and Nehemiah that only a REMNANT (a minority)
returned. In fact, the largest Jewish population at the time of
Yeshua/Jesus was not in the land of Israel but in the land of
Babylon.
Finally, let us read how the prophecy reads in Ezekiel 37
to see that it could not have possibly been fulfilled when a REMNANT
of the Jews returned from Babylon.
Ezekiel 37:15-27:
"The word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Moreover, thou son of
man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the
children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write
upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of
Israel and his companions: And join them one to another into one
stick: and they shall become one in thine hand ... And say unto them,
Thus saith, the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel
from AMONG THE HEATHEN whither they have gone and will GATHER THEM ON
EVERY SIDE (North, South, East and West) and BRING THEM INTO THEIR
OWN LAND: and I will make the ONE NATION in the LAND upon the
MOUTAINS OF ISRAEL (Judea/Samaria --- The West Bank) and ONE KING
shall be KING to them all: and they shall be no more two nations ...
Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols ...
and David my servant shall be KING over them and they shall also
walk in my judgments and observe my statutes and do them and they
shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant
wherein your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell therein, even
they, and their children and their children's children FOREVER ... My
tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I wil be their God and they
shall be my people".
VERY CLEARLY this prophecy was NOT fulfilled when the
REMNANT of the Jews returned to the land of Israel from Babylon in
536 B.C.E. For the prophecy in Ezekiel 37 states the following:
#1) G-d would gather them from ALL SIDES (all the nations)
(Ezek 37:21)
#2) They would have one KING over them. This is a reference to
(Zechariah 14:9) (Ezek 37:21-22)
#3) They would dwell in the land of Israel in the mountains of Israel
(the West Bank) FOREVER (Ezek 37:25)
#4) They would keep G-d's Torah and not break it (Ezek 37:24)
#5) G-d would set His tabernacle among them (Ezek 37:27)
In fact, this prophecy has still not been fulfilled to this
day. This is a second coming prophetic event. It is placed in the
book of Ezekiel between chapter 36 (Israel becoming a nation after
being scattered among the nations of the world) and the war with Gog
and Magog (Ezek 38-39). Then, Ezek 40-48 describes the Temple during
the Messianic Age. So, very clearly, this prophecy could not have
been fulfilled in 536 B.C.E (Before the Common Era).
Eddie Chumney
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