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From: Yair Davidi (britam@netvision.net.il)
To: heb_roots_chr@hebroots.org
Subject: Jeremiah 9

NOTE FROM EDDIE

Yair Davidi is an ORTHDOX JEW who lives in Jersualem, Israel. He has a ministry named "Brit-Am" which promotes awareness of the two houses of Israel being reunited in the end of days

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[Jeremiah 9:13] AND THE LORD SAITH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE FORSAKEN MY LAW WHICH I SET BEFORE THEM, AND HAVE NOT OBEYED MY VOICE, NEITHER WALKED THEREIN;

We must keep the Law.

[Jeremiah 9:14] BUT HAVE WALKED AFTER THE IMAGINATION OF THEIR OWN HEART, AND AFTER BAALIM, WHICH THEIR FATHERS TAUGHT THEM:

The Ancient Israelites worshipped Baal and also applied the name Baal to God Himself as reported by Hosea.

[Hosea 2:16] AND IT SHALL BE AT THAT DAY, SAITH THE LORD, THAT THOU SHALT CALL ME ISHI; AND SHALT CALL ME NO MORE BAALI.

[Hosea 2:17] FOR I WILL TAKE AWAY THE NAMES OF BAALIM OUT OF HER MOUTH, AND THEY SHALL NO MORE BE REMEMBERED BY THEIR NAME.

The Celtic Inhabitants of Britain called themselves Iberi, or Iberni, or Hiberni which as all names meaning Hebrew. They also worshipped "Baal" whom they referred to as "Bel".

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From: Yair Davidi (britam@netvision.net.il)
To: heb_roots_chr@hebroots.org
Subject: Jeremiah 11

Jeremiah 11

[Jeremiah 11:10] THEY ARE TURNED BACK TO THE INIQUITIES OF THEIR FOREFATHERS, WHICH REFUSED TO HEAR MY WORDS; AND THEY WENT AFTER OTHER GODS TO SERVE THEM: THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH HAVE BROKEN MY COVENANT WHICH I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS. THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL,

i.e. the northern Ten Tribes who were exiled and lost". AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, i.e. the Jews.

[Jeremiah 11:11] THEREFORE THUS SAITH THE LORD, BEHOLD, I WILL BRING EVIL UPON THEM, WHICH THEY SHALL NOT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE; AND THOUGH
THEY SHALL CRY UNTO ME, I WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO THEM.

[Jeremiah 11:12] THEN SHALL THE CITIES OF JUDAH AND INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM GO, AND CRY UNTO THE GODS UNTO WHOM THEY OFFER INCENSE: BUT THEY SHALL NOT SAVE THEM AT ALL IN THE TIME OF THEIR TROUBLE.

[Jeremiah 11:13] FOR ACCORDING TO THE NUMBER OF THY CITIES WERE THY GODS, O JUDAH; AND ACCORDING TO THE NUMBER OF THE STREETS OF JERUSALEM HAVE YE SET UP ALTARS TO THAT SHAMEFUL THING, EVEN ALTARS TO BURN INCENSE UNTO BAAL.

They worshipped baal and even worshipped God under the name of baal. The "Celtic" in habitants of Britain and Ireland also worshipped baal whom they called "Bel". Britain was known as "the honey isle of Bel". The Romans nicknamed Britain "Happy Arabia". If you look on the Maps of Ptolemy you will see that the term "Arabia" in Greek and Roman nomenclature could encompass a good part of the ancient boundaries of Israel.

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From: Yair Davidi (britam@netvision.net.il)
To: heb_roots_chr@hebroots.org
Subject: Jeremiah 19

Jeremiah 19:

[Jeremiah 19:1] THUS SAITH THE LORD, GO AND GET A POTTER'S EARTHEN BOTTLE, AND TAKE OF THE ANCIENTS OF THE PEOPLE, AND OF THE ANCIENTS OF THE PRIESTS;

[Jeremiah 19:2] AND GO FORTH UNTO THE VALLEY OF THE SON OF HINNOM, WHICH IS BY THE ENTRY OF THE EAST GATE, AND PROCLAIM THERE THE WORDS THAT I SHALL TELL THEE,

"VALLEY OF THE SON OF HINNOM" in Hebrew "Gai ben Hinom" or in short "Gai Hinom" rendered popularly as "Gehinom" and given a meaning synonymous with hell.

[Jeremiah 19:3] AND SAY, HEAR YE THE WORD OF THE LORD, O KINGS OF JUDAH, AND INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM; THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, THE GOD OF ISRAEL; BEHOLD, I WILL BRING EVIL UPON THIS PLACE, THE WHICH WHOSOEVER HEARETH, HIS EARS SHALL TINGLE.

[Jeremiah 19:4] BECAUSE THEY HAVE FORSAKEN ME, AND HAVE ESTRANGED THIS PLACE, AND HAVE BURNED INCENSE IN IT UNTO OTHER GODS, WHOM NEITHER THEY NOR THEIR FATHERS HAVE KNOWN, NOR THE KINGS OF JUDAH, AND HAVE FILLED THIS PLACE WITH THE BLOOD OF INNOCENTS;

[Jeremiah 19:5] THEY HAVE BUILT ALSO THE HIGH PLACES OF BAAL, TO BURN THEIR SONS WITH FIRE FOR BURNT OFFERINGS UNTO BAAL, WHICH I COMMANDED NOT, NOR SPAKE IT, NEITHER CAME IT INTO MY MIND:

They used to offer up human sacrifice, especially infants to Baal. This was a Canaanite practice. Carthage in North Africa was founded by Canaanites from the Phoenican cities of Tyre and Sidon. There too archaeologists have discovered evidence of massive human sacrifice of little children. The places concerned are termed "tophets". All ancient sculptures appear at some time or other to have practiced human sacrifice. The Druids in Celtic Britain and in Gaul also practiced human sacrifice according to reports on a large scale. The Druids also worshipped "baal" or "Bel" as he was referred to. "Bel" was the Mesopotamian (Assyrian and Babylonian) pronunciation of "Baal". Concerning the Celts we have discerned the presence of Israelites in general throughout the Celtic world but especially in the West of Europe where druids and megalithic monuments (dolmens) were present. Abortions and euthanasia are also in general similar to forms of human sacrifice. The motivation is often similar and their adherents practice the cult of human immolation with an almost religious dedication. Ruth Schechter wrote works in Hebrew on philosophy and national ideologies. I do not know if her works have ever been translated into English. Some of her claims overlap Brit-Am beliefs, for instance she claimed that the National Ideology of the English was basically Hebraic. [The German nationalist philosopher Walter Sombart described the USA as socially and ideologically a "Jewish" nation]. Ruth Schechter claimed also that the Nazi destruction of the Jews had the same rationale as human sacrifice.

[Jeremiah 19:6] THEREFORE, BEHOLD, THE DAYS COME, SAITH THE LORD, THAT THIS PLACE SHALL NO MORE BE CALLED TOPHET, NOR THE VALLEY OF THE SON OF HINNOM, BUT THE VALLEY OF SLAUGHTER.

[Jeremiah 19:7] AND I WILL MAKE VOID THE COUNSEL OF JUDAH AND JERUSALEM IN THIS PLACE; AND I WILL CAUSE THEM TO FALL BY THE SWORD BEFORE THEIR ENEMIES, AND BY THE HANDS OF THEM THAT SEEK THEIR LIVES: AND THEIR CARCASES WILL I GIVE TO BE MEAT FOR THE FOWLS OF THE HEAVEN, AND FOR THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH.

[Jeremiah 19:8] AND I WILL MAKE THIS CITY DESOLATE, AND AN HISSING; EVERY ONE THAT PASSETH THEREBY SHALL BE ASTONISHED AND HISS BECAUSE OF ALL THE PLAGUES THEREOF.

[Jeremiah 19:9] AND I WILL CAUSE THEM TO EAT THE FLESH OF THEIR SONS AND THE FLESH OF THEIR DAUGHTERS, AND THEY SHALL EAT EVERY ONE THE FLESH OF HIS FRIEND IN THE SIEGE AND STRAITNESS, WHEREWITH THEIR ENEMIES, AND THEY THAT SEEK THEIR LIVES, SHALL STRAITEN THEM.

[Jeremiah 19:10] THEN SHALT THOU BREAK THE BOTTLE IN THE SIGHT OF THE MEN THAT GO WITH THEE,

[Jeremiah 19:11] AND SHALT SAY UNTO THEM, THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS; EVEN SO WILL I BREAK THIS PEOPLE AND THIS CITY, AS ONE BREAKETH A POTTER'S VESSEL, THAT CANNOT BE MADE WHOLE AGAIN: AND THEY SHALL BURY THEM IN TOPHET, TILL THERE BE NO PLACE TO BURY.

[Jeremiah 19:12] THUS WILL I DO UNTO THIS PLACE, SAITH THE LORD, AND TO THE INHABITANTS THEREOF, AND EVEN MAKE THIS CITY AS TOPHET:

"TOPHET" means the place of human sacrifice where the murdered bodies were consumed.

[Jeremiah 19:13] AND THE HOUSES OF JERUSALEM, AND THE HOUSES OF THE KINGS OF JUDAH, SHALL BE DEFILED AS THE PLACE OF TOPHET, BECAUSE OF ALL THE HOUSES UPON WHOSE ROOFS THEY HAVE BURNED INCENSE UNTO ALL THE HOST OF HEAVEN, AND HAVE POURED OUT DRINK OFFERINGS UNTO OTHER GODS.

[Jeremiah 19:14] THEN CAME JEREMIAH FROM TOPHET, WHITHER THE LORD HAD SENT HIM TO PROPHESY; AND HE STOOD IN THE COURT OF THE LORD'S HOUSE; AND SAID TO ALL THE PEOPLE,

[Jeremiah 19:15] THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, THE GOD OF ISRAEL; BEHOLD, I WILL BRING UPON THIS CITY AND UPON ALL HER TOWNS ALL THE EVIL THAT I HAVE PRONOUNCED AGAINST IT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE HARDENED THEIR NECKS, THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HEAR MY WORDS.

We should listen when God warns. God speaks to us through events and surroundings. Very often when disaster or misfortune comes upon us we have been warned beforehand either by other people or by previous events that we should have learned from. We are all proud. Pride is a necessary part of the human constitution. Everyone suffers from failures and rejections in
their lifetime. This is part of living. Pride helps us overcome the feelings of inadequacy caused by events and weaknesses. Nevertheless pride is an enemy of ours and often prevents us from learning from mistakes and beginning again. True honor means meeting adversity and living as well as we can, i.e. being as good as we can. We should realize that every day is a gift and an opportunity to make life worthwhile.

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From: Yair Davidi (britam@netvision.net.il)
To: heb_roots_chr@hebroots.org
Subject: Jeremiah 23

Jeremiah 23

[Jeremiah 23:27] WHICH THINK TO CAUSE MY PEOPLE TO FORGET MY NAME BY THEIR DREAMS WHICH THEY TELL EVERY MAN TO HIS NEIGHBOUR, AS THEIR FATHERS HAVE FORGOTTEN MY NAME FOR BAAL.

The British Celts called themselves Hiberi (i.e. Hebrews) and worshipped "Bel" which is another form of the name Baal.

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NOTE FROM EDDIE:

There is a growing belief and movement with SOME Messianic [Israelite] circles that when referring to the God of Israel that we should speak the sacred name YHVH.

 As a means of INFORMATION and EXPLANATION (to help you in your studies), the Jewish community does NOT use the name YHVH today. Instead they use substitutes or synonyms for the name like HaShem (the name) or write it (when speaking English) as G-d or when speaking Hebrew if they don't use (HaShem) they say (Adonai).

Among the various reasons and explanations for this practice is that the nation of Israel is in EXILE. In Biblical thought, EXILE is linked with the God of Israel (YHVH) 'hiding his face'. However, the Jewish community believes that when the redemption takes place (the restoration and reunfication of both houses of Israel) (Ezekiel 3:15-28) that then the God of Israel (YHVH) will no longer 'hide his face' and HIS presense will be REAL to BOTH those who are called by His name and the human secular world.

When the ingathering of the exiles / Messianic redemption (Ezekiel 37:15-28) happens then the SPEAKING and WRITING of the sacred name YHVH will be restored.

This can be seen from an article written by a rabbi in Israel (Rabbi Pinchas Winston) and an affirmation of the belief from an e-mail which I sent to him recently.

This information follows:

From:Rabbi Pinchas Winston
To: heb_roots_chr@hebroots.org
Subject: The name of YHVH

Eddie asks:

From an Orthodox Jewish point of view, do you see that the name YHVH will be pronounced and said either:

#1) At the dawn of the Messianic Era OR
#2) During the Messianic Era

The reason why I ask is (from your website):

"They say that when Moshiach comes, "Hovayah" (the Four-Letter Ineffable Name of G-d) will be renewed ..."

" ... the prophet describes the time on Moshiach and the Final Redemption in terms of once again being able to pronounce the Shem Hovayah the way it is spelled ..."

It will be that G-d (Hovayah) will be King over all that land, and, on that day, Hovayah will be One and His Name One." (Zechariah 14:9)

"As well, before putting on the Tallis in the morning and donning Tefillin, the following declaration appears in most siddurim: "This is for the sake of unifying The Holy One, Blessed is He, with His Divine Presence, and, in fear and in love, to unify the Name Yud-Heh with Vav-Heh completely, in the name of the entire Jewish people."

AND

" ... the prophet describes the time on Moshiach and the Final Redemption in terms of ONCE AGAIN being able to pronounce the Shem Hovayah the way it is spelled ..."

Eddie continues:

I know that YHVH was pronounced historically by the High Priest on the day of atonement.

The G-d of Israel or even the Moshiach seems to be described as being "hidden". The exile is seen in terms of the concept of "hidden" or "concealed" and that HaShem is "hiding his face". Even the Shechinah is seen as being in exile. In fact, there are many references in the Torah and prophets of "hiding the face".

At the time of the historical Egyptian redemption, Moshe said, 'I want to see your glory (or face?)'.

So, is it an Orthodox Jewish concept that during the Messianic redemption or at the dawn of the Messianic redemption that which was "hidden" (the name of YHVH or even the Messiah) will be "revealed" (the name of YHVH will be pronounced and the Messiah will be clearly known and accepted as Messiah by the entire nation of Israel and the entire world). Would this understanding be correct? If not, can you clarify and explain further?

Eddie Chumney

The rabbi replies:

Correct. In the Days of Moshiach, G-d will be revealed, His Name will be pronounced as It is written, and Moshiach will be the universal prince.

Sincerely,
PW

NOTE FROM EDDIE:

In John 17, Messiah prayed for:

#1) The restoration and regathering of both houses of Israel (that they may be one)

#2) The unification and glorification of the name of YHVH

#3) Through these two events that the world would know that Messiah was sent of the Father

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