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From: Yair Davidi [mailto:britam@netvision.net.il]
To: heb_roots_chr@hebroots.org
Subject: Two Houses Reunited? part-one 1/3
From: Sharon Lindstrom 
Yair,
Would you refute this please? You have the know-how and the factual biblical 
basis to do so. I know all the points on a more superficial level but I do
not have the in-depth understanding to make a case as you do..Would 
you help me out?
Sharon
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 THE ARTICLE TO BE REFUTED 
by ORTHODOX JEW
Yair Davidi
The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel
by Tony Warren
Two Houses Reunited? 
Answer  by Brit-Am to article
>The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel
>by Tony Warren
>
>There are few mysteries so steeped in controversy today as that of
>"The 10 lost tribes of Israel." When people use this phrase, they
>are referring to the ten tribes that rebelled against the Kingly
>line of David and became the
>northern kingdom [1]. But to declare them "still lost" is a myth
>based on nothing that is biblically substantive.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
"lost" in Hebrew is translated from the root ABD ("oved" or "aved" or
"abed") which can also mean to perish or wander, thus, in Leviticus
26:38 where  it says: [Leviticus 26:38] AND YE SHALL PERISH AMONG THE
HEATHEN This can be alternately translated as saying you shall wander
or be lost among the Gentiles. This was a punishment predicted to
befall part of the Israelite nation from the very beginning. Isaiah
says:
  [Isaiah 27:13] AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS IN THAT DAY, THAT THE GREAT
TRUMPET SHALL BE BLOWN, AND THEY SHALL COME WHICH WERE READY TO PERISH
IN THE LAND OF ASSYRIA, AND THE OUTCASTS IN THE LAND OF EGYPT, AND
SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD IN THE HOLY MOUNT AT JERUSALEM. "WHICH WERE
READY TO PERISH IN THE LAND OF ASSYRIA" 
from the Hebrew can be translated as saying "Those who were lost in the land of Assyria",
i.e. the Ten Tribes who were exiled by the Assyrians were "lost".
Jeroboam from the Tribe of Ephraim had been promised: 
[1-Kings 11:35]
BUT I WILL TAKE THE KINGDOM OUT OF HIS SON'S HAND, AND WILL GIVE IT
UNTO  THEE, EVEN TEN TRIBES.
 These ten tribes were sometimes referred
to as "Israel" as juxtaposed to "Judah": Later: 
[2KGS 17:18] THEREFORE
THE LORD WAS VERY ANGRY WITH ISRAEL, AND REMOVED THEM OUT OF HIS
SIGHT: THERE WAS NONE LEFT BUT THE TRIBE OF JUDAH ONLY.
The ten tribes were exiled by the Assyrians and were "lost".  The
concept of "The Ten Lost Tribes" is thus derived from the Hebrew text.
It is found in Jewish tradition from the earliest  times. It is not a
later invention as some would claim but is derived from the Bible.
>
>All references today to the lost
>tribes of Israel as a missing nation of people, are extra-biblical.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Not so: see above. See all our commentaries on Scripture.
>
>  It is
>through this misnomer that many fables and unfounded theories have
>emerged about what happened to the people of the northern Kingdom.
>It seems, everybody wants to get in on the theoretical action.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
True. The Bible however speaks of the Lost Ten Ten Tribes and gives us
a description of their geographical position and national
characteristics in the Last Days. Only one interelated group of
peoples fit the given criteria.
>
>  But while these legends
>and stories are sometimes amusing, and often innovative, it is
>important to remember they are the stuff of imaginations, not of sound scriptural
>exegesis.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
see our "exegesis" and tell us what is not sound about it.
>
>A Brief History
>
>Between 1047 B.C. and 931 B.C. the 12 tribes of the nation of Israel
>thrived under Kings Saul, David, and then King Solomon. But towards
>the end of Solomon's reign, he fell into idolatry and God prophesied of the
>tearing apart of the Kingdom as judgment for this idolatry.
>correct.
>
>1st Kings 11:10-12
>
>"And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go
>after other gods: but he kept not that which the LORD commanded.
>Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of
>thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I
>have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and
>will give it to
>thy servant. Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David
>thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son."
>
>And as Prophesied, upon the death of King Solomon in 931 B.C., the
>Children of the northern tribes of Israel rebelled against his son Rehoboam,
>and followed Jeroboam. Thus the nation was divided into two
>kingdoms.
>
>1st Kings 12:20-21
>"And it came to pass, when all Israel heard that Jeroboam was come
>again, that they sent and called him unto the congregation, and made
>him king over all Israel: there was none that followed the house of
>David, but the tribe of Judah only. And when Rehoboam was come to
>Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah, with the tribe of
>Benjamin, an hundred and
>fourscore thousand chosen men, which were warriors, to fight against
>the house of Israel, to bring the kingdom again to Rehoboam the son
>of Solomon.
>Judah and the tribe of Benjamin were the only tribes that remained
>loyal to
>Solomon's son Rehoboam, and these two tribes of the southern area
>became known as the kingdom of Judah because Judah was the principle
>tribe.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
So we see: two tribes in the south headed by "Judah" and ten in the
north. Note there were actually 13 tribes but sometimes Levi is not
mentioned because it was scattered amongst all the tribes, or the two
tribes of Ephraim and Menasseh are counted together as one tribe of
"Joseph" or Simeon is not mentioned since to a degree it was
encompasssed by Judah. At all events a quorum of 12 is maintained.
>
>The 10 tribes to the north who were not loyal to Rehoboam, set up a
>separate kingdom under Jeroboam. King Jeroboam was not in the kingly line of
>the House of David. These Northern tribes became known both as
>Israel or Ephraim
>(because it was the principle tribe). For the next two centuries the
>people were divided into these two Kingdoms, yet almost immediately a
>remnant of the tribes to the north began to return to the southern
>Kingdom(because King Jeroboam turned the Northern Kingdom to idol 
>worship). It is clear that the
>Levites and some of the other tribes who eschewed this evil returned
>to Judah.
>
>2nd Chronicles 11:14-17
>
>"For the Levites left their suburbs and their possession, and came
>to Judah and Jerusalem: for Jeroboam and his sons had cast them off
>from executing the priest's office unto the LORD: And he ordained
>him priests
>for the high places, and for the devils, and for the calves which he had
>made. And after them out of all the tribes of Israel such as set
>their hearts to seek the LORD God of Israel came to Jerusalem, to
>sacrifice unto the LORD God of their fathers. So they strengthened
>the kingdom of Judah, and made Rehoboam the son of Solomon strong,
>three years: for three years they walked
>>in the way of David and Solomon."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
correct. All or most of Levi went south and so did a minority out of
some of the other tribes BUT see below.
>
>Clearly, a remnant was returning to the house of David from Israel.
>When King Asa began to reign in 911 B.C., he turned again the hearts
>of the people to the Lord and did not the evil of his father. By 896
>B.C., after Asa put away the idols out of all the land, even those
>who were not hebrew came with them to the southern Kingdom out of
>the tribes of Ephraim, Manasseh, and Simeon. Again, a remnant
>returning, not the whole tribe.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
OK. a remnant.
>
>2nd Chronicles 15:9-10
>
>"And he gathered all Judah and Benjamin, and the strangers with them
>out of Ephraim and Manasseh, and out of Simeon: for they fell to him
>out of Israel in abundance, when they saw that the LORD his God was
>with him. So they gathered themselves together at Jerusalem in the
>third month, in the fifteenth year of the reign of Asa."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
OK. Some out of Ephraim, Menasseh, and Simeon. A minority out of three
of the ten northern tribes.
>
>So it is pretty clear that a remnant from Israel was coming back to
>be under rule of the House of David. But the abomination of the
>northern tribes of Israel which started with Jeroboam, continued
>with his children and would not go unpunished by God. God sent the
>promised judgment to cut them off and cast them out of His sight.
>
>2nd Kings 17:22-23
>"For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam
>which he did; they departed not from them; Until the LORD removed
>Israel out
>of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So
>was Israel
>carried away out of their own
>land to Assyria unto this day."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Israel i.e. the northern tribes were exiled. The above verse was
written in the time of Ezra and so in Ezra's time they were still
exiled.
>
>And in 722 B.C., Assyrian King Shalmaneser V, who ruled the vast
>empire to the north, invaded the Kingdom of Israel and subjugated
>[2] them. The Israelite inhabitants were exiled and dispersed into
>the outlying general area (what is today Syria, Iran and Iraq), as
>was the tradition of the Assyrians to prevent rebellion or revolt.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Adapted from "Lost Israelite Identity" by Yair Davidi:
         The Hebrews' enjoyment of their patrimony was to be curtailed
due to war with Assyria. The lands of Israel were to be conquered and all
of the people exiled. The Tribes east of the Jordan were among the
first to be taken away.
         "And the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of
Assyria and the spirit of Tiglathpileser king of Assyria, and he
carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half
tribe of Menasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara,
and to the river Gozan, unto this day" (1-Chronicles 5;25 26).
         "In the days of Pekah king of Israel, Tiglath-Pileser came and 
took Ijon, Abel Beth Maachah, Janoah, Kedesh, Hazor, Gilead, and
Galilee all the land of Nephtali; and he carried them captive to
Assyria" (2-Kings 15;29). How many Israelites were exiled has been
debated but the fact is that they all went. The northern Israelite
Kingdom along with its inhabitants disappeared from the Israelite
area. The exile of all Israel from the Northern Galilee is recorded in
an inscription of Tiglathpileser who boasts of exiling all of "Bit
Khumria" [i.e. Northern Israel] except for a small remnant which he
left around the city of Samaria.5 The city of Samaria was then the
capital. It had been built by King Omri. "Bit Khumria" was the name
which the Assyrians gave to Northern Israel presumably in remembrance
of King Omri ("Khumri" in Assyrian) whose son Achab had once fought
and defeated the Assyrian forces6.
         The Assyrian ruler Tiglathpileser (745-727) was followed by
Shalmaneser (727-722) and he by Sargon (722-705) and then came
Senacherib (705-681). All of these kings participated in the exile and
resettlement of Israelites. After the eastern Tribes and the northern
ones had all been exiled, there remained only a rump state centered
around the city of Samaria in the south. The inhabitants of this area
were also to be exiled: "Then the king of Assyria came up throughout
all the land, and went up to Samaria, and besieged it three years.
         "In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria took
Samaria,  and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah, and in
Habor, by the city of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes" (2-Kings
17;7-8).
         "And the king of Assyria did carry away Israel, unto 
Assyria, and  put them in Halah, and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the
cities of the Medes.
         "Because they obeyed not the voice of The LORD their God, but
transgressed his covenant, and all that Moses the servant of The LORD
commanded, and would not hear them, nor do them" (2-Kings 18;11- 12).
         An Assyrian inscription recalls the taking of Samaria and the
exile of its inhabitants. This inscription says that the king of
Assyria took to himself more than 27,000 people and the rest he
removed to Assyria. The inscription is understandable as meaning NOT
(as is commonly claimed) that Sargon took only 27,000 plus people from
Samaria into captivity BUT rather that Sargon took ca. 27,000 people
for his own (military) purposes and the remainder of the people he
settled in Assyria.
         The people of Samaria were besieged and exiled after all the
rest  of their brethren had already been taken away en masse.
         Following the exile of Samaria, the Bible says that, "there
was none left but the tribe of Judah only" (2-Kings 17;18). The Talmud8
and Midrashim9 also speak of the Lost Ten Tribes having all been
exiled. One Midrash10 suggests that one in eight remained. Here and
there, there do exist hints that a small percentage of the northern
tribes survived and became assimilated amongst the Jews of Judah.
Archaeologists have discovered a neighborhood in Jerusalem which was
settled by refugees from northern Israel11. These newcomers show the
strong influence of Egyptian and foreign culture and for a while
appear to have practiced cremation which is forbidden by Jewish Law.
Also Levites and other religious refugees had began to drift southward
long before the Assyrian invasion (2-Chronicles 11;13). Nevertheless,
SINCE NOTHING REALLY SIGNIFICANT REMAINED OF THEM THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY MUST HAVE GONE INTO EXILE AS THE BIBLE SAYS THEY DID!!
         Archaeological excavations prove the completeness of deportation. 
For the period after the Assyrian conquest of Israel there is a gap in
archaeological finds everywhere with accompanying traces of burning
and destruction. For some time afterwards there is no real new
settlement and when organized habitation does begin it is small and
impoverished, at least at first and nowhere can it be ascribed to the
previous Israelite dwellers.
         In addition to the exile of the northern Israelites, Sennacherib 
boasted of having conquered cities in Judah and deported more than
200,000 people. This event is spoken of in Midrashim12 and other
sources of Jewish tradition even though it is merely hinted at in the
Bible:
           "Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did
Sennacherib king of Assyria come up against all the fenced cities of Judah and
took them" (2-Kings 18;13)
         The Prophet Isaiah had predicted that after all the Assyrian
Exiles of Northern Israel and Judah were completed only one in ten of
the original population would remain and these apparently would be
those in Judah who would later endure an additional exile of their
own:
         "If there yet remain a tenth in it, it also shall be
consumed"  (Isaiah 6;13).
         The Jews who remained in Judah were destined to be exiled to
Babylon and from there to return under the leadership of Ezra and
Nehemiah. The Jews of Judah who had been exiled to Babylon did however
retain consciousness of their national identity whereas the others
ultimately did not. Those Jews who had been taken into exile
previously by Sennacherib remained unheard of. They assumedly joined
their brothers from the Ten Tribes and became assimilated with them.
         "Therefore The LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed
them  (2 Kings 17;18).....
         "Until The LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had
said by  all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their
own land to Assyria unto this day" (2-Kings 17;23).
The above extracts establish the principles:
1. "Judah" (i.e. the Jews) was dominated by the Tribe of Judah but
included probably most of Benjamin and Levi and also a small minority
from some of the other tribes. 
2. "Israel" (also referred to as
"Joseph", "Ephraim", "Samaria", or the Lost Ten Tribes) included many
from Judah. 
3. Nevertheless the Bible follows the rule of dominant
influence or majority numbers and refers to "Israel" (the Ten Tribes)
in juxtaposition to "Judah" meaning the Jews. In  Biblical termsThe
Lost Ten Tribes were lost despite the fact that a small remnant from
some of them remained with Judah.
>
>But again, as prophesied, a
>portion of the tribes of Israel returned to Judah, as in 716 B.C.
>King Hezekiah who reigned in Judah now, called for the remnant to
>return.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
No. Here he is in error.
As I mentioned elsewhere:Members from  some of ther tribes in the time
of Hexekiah did come up to Jerusalem.
They came to keep the Passover and afterwards presumably returned to
their places.  This was in the first year of Hezekiah (2-Chronicles
29).
At this time not all of the northern tribes had been exiled. The
Assyrians exiled the northern tribes in stages and Hezekiah called
them to keep the Passover before the final stage had occurred. He
called them up in the first year of his reign. A few responded. Most
did not but mocked the messengers of Hezekiah (2-Chronicles 30;11).
>
>The final exile of the remnant of the northern tribes (in Samaria)
>came later, beginning  in the fourth year of the reign of Hezekiah
>(2-Kings 18;9).
>
[2KGS 18:9] AND IT CAME TO PASS IN THE FOURTH YEAR OF KING HEZEKIAH,
WHICH WAS THE SEVENTH YEAR OF HOSHEA SON OF ELAH KING OF ISRAEL, THAT
SHALMANESER KING OF ASSYRIA CAME UP AGAINST SAMARIA, AND BESIEGED IT.
>
>Also in the 14th year of Hezekiah's reign there was an additional
>exile by Sanncherib and many of those who dwelt in the open cities
>around Judah were also exiled. These included according to tradition
>most of the Tribe of Simeon that still remained..
>
>2nd Chronicles 30:6
>
>"So the posts went with the letters from the king and his princes
>throughout all Israel and Judah, and according to the commandment of
>the king, saying, Ye children of Israel, turn again unto the LORD
>God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, and he will return to the remnant
>of you, that are escaped out of the hand of the kings of Assyria.
>
>2nd Chronicles 30:10
>
>10 So the posts passed from city to city through the country of
>Ephraim and Manasseh even unto Zebulun: but they laughed them to
>scorn, and
>mocked them. Nevertheless divers of Asher and Manasseh and of
>Zebulun humbled themselves, and came to Jerusalem."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
As we said. Most did not respond to the call of Hezekiah. Some did but
did not necessarily remain in Jerusalem but probably returned home and
were exiled by the Assyrians together with their brothers in the
fourth year of Hezekiah, as described above.
>
>Quite obviously (according to God) though these tribes were dispersed,
>they were neither lost, nor unaccounted for in God's Word. The wicked of
>them dispersed into the nations who mocked and would not return,
>were cut off of God and eventually assimilated into the surrounding nations. But
>the remnant who humbled themselves before Hezekiah's call, did return. One
>would have to hold an irrational inherent bias in order to agree that portions of
>the northern tribes (Ephraim, Manasseh, Asher, Zebulon, Issachar)
>did come to Jerusalem for Passover, yet still insist that the
>tribes were still lost. That makes no sense at all. There is no
>mystery. A remnant was restored (as was prophesied)
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
where? All the prophesies about return refer to the Latter Days.
>
>to Judah, not the whole people. It was never God's plan or
>Word of prophesy to restore the whole people. The tribes returned
>as God intended, and were accounted for.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
no they were not.
Where are they accounted for?
>
>And this can be very easily proven by
>scripture.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
so prove it.
>
>In 633 B.C. in the 8th year of the reign
>of King Josiah, he walked after the way of the good kings and
>cleansed the "tribal cities" of the nation Judah.
>
>2nd Chronicles 34:5-7
>
>"And he burnt the bones of the priests upon their altars, and
>cleansed Judah and Jerusalem. And so did he in the cities of
>Manasseh, and
>Ephraim, and Simeon, even unto Naphtali, with their mattocks round
>about. And when he had broken down the altars and the groves, and
>had beaten the graven images into powder, and cut down all the
>idols throughout all the land of Israel, he returned to Jerusalem."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
"their mattocks". In Hebrew "Charvotayhem" which means "in the
ruins"!!! In other words according to this verse King Josiah of Judah
destroyed the remnants of idolatry in the RUINED CITIES AND THEIR
SURROUNDINGS of the northern tribes. Ruined cities are not populated.
Even so in the time of Josiah a small number of Israelite Scythians
did attempt an initial resettlement in the land (in the north and in
"Phillistia" on the coast) under the guidance of King Josiah. They
may well have intended to make the former north Israelite city of
Beth-Shean their capital. At this stage the Israelite Scythians had
in effect taken control of the Assyrian Empire as explained in our
book "The Tribes" and in another work we hope to publish in the
future. This attempt lasted only as long as the Scythians were
paramount (i.e. ca 25 years) and when the Scythians lost control so
did their settlement. Nachmanides wrote of this and so did Rabbi
Shlomo Goren (former Chief Rabbi of Israel) and they both agree that
after the death of Josiah those few Israelites who had come back to
the Land then returned to their places of exile. These facts are
derived from Talmudic commentories, archaeological evidence, and
records passed on by Roman historians.
>
>2nd Chronicles 34:9
>
>"And when they came to Hilkiah the high priest, they delivered the
>money that was brought into the house of God, which the Levites
>that kept the doors had gathered of the hand of Manasseh and
>Ephraim, and of all the
>remnant of Israel, and of all Judah and Benjamin; and they returned
>to Jerusalem."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
see above. This was in the reign of Josiah. Those of Manasseh and
Ephraim and the remnant were either indeed the small minority remnant
after the Assyrian exile who we all agree did remain OR the few
Scythian-Israelites wh were temporarily in the Land in the time of Josiah.
>
>Again, the tribes neither lost nor unaccounted for in God's Word.
>Israel that transgressed were cut off, but "the remnant" returned.
>And likewise when Judah transgressed the laws of God as her sister
>Israel had, God also
>sent judgment against her and the land was invaded and conquered by
>the Chaldean King Nebuchadnezzar some 136 years later. He destroyed
>their house and carried the people away captive into Babylon. The Temple was
>destroyed and they were subjugated until 539 B.C. when Babylon itself fell to
>King Cyrus of the Medes and Persians. Under Cyrus, again the
>remnant of exiled "Jews and Israelites" returned to Jerusalem and
>construction on the Temple
>started[3].
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Ezra and Nechemiah list the people who returned from Babylon and give
their tribes. Only Judah, Benjamin, and Levi are mentioned.
>
> And later in 458 B.C., Ezra returned to Jerusalem with more of
>the exiled Jews to reestablish the law. Both the houses of Israel
>and Judah were represented in the remnant reestablished in Judah.
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
They are not mentioned in the Bible - apart from people from Judah,
Benjamin, and Levi.
>
>Israel and Judah
>were now one people again.
>
>A False Dichotomy of Continuing Distinction
>
>This remnant returning had to occur because the scripture prophecy
>was that the tribes of Israel and their southern brethren Judah would be
>reunited ...
>
>The little ditty that is often quoted is, "All Jews are Israelites,
>but all Israelites are not Jews."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
accurate.
>
>This may be a catchy phrase, but it is simply a
>demonstration of a lack of thorough study of scripture. It is true
>that there was a distinction in the original splitting apart (as we
>obviously saw) of the kingdoms, but this distinction did not
>continue.
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Jeremiah speaks of Ephraim still in Exile and so does Isaiah and the
other prophets. Jeremiah prophesied just before the Exile to Babylon.
Ephraim was still in Exile.
 [Jeremiah 31:18] I HAVE SURELY HEARD
EPHRAIM BEMOANING HIMSELF THUS; THOU HAST CHASTISED ME, AND I WAS
CHASTISED, AS A BULLOCK UNACCUSTOMED TO THE YOKE: TURN THOU ME, AND I
SHALL BE TURNED; FOR THOU ART THE LORD MY GOD. [Jeremiah 31:21] SET
THEE UP WAYMARKS, MAKE THEE HIGH HEAPS: SET THINE HEART TOWARD THE
HIGHWAY, EVEN THE WAY WHICH THOU WENTEST: TURN AGAIN, O VIRGIN OF
ISRAEL, TURN AGAIN TO THESE THY CITIES.
>
>The people were
>called Jews because the land in the south was named Judea, for it
>encompassed principally Jerusalem. The word is derived from this
>word Judea,
>and because of the division between the northern tribes and Judah
>or Jerusalem in the south, it was spoken of by God in this contrast
>of Kingdoms. i.e., Judah or Jerusalem and Israel. However, when the
>remnant returned, they again became one body.
>
>Ezra 7:12-14
>
>"Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the
>law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time. I make
>a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests
>and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to
>go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
>Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven
>counsellors, to enquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according
>to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;"
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
He is expressly speaking of Judah and Jerusalem.
>
>Artaxerxes' decree specifically states that "all they of the people
>of Israel" were free to return to Jerusalem, so why would anyone
>even attempt
>to argue that anyone from Israel was either excluded, or that they
>were somehow lost? A remnant assuredly returned, while the rest who
>were assimilated into other nations never did. Nor were they
>prophesied to ...
>
>Ezra 7:7
>
>"And there went up some of the children of Israel, and of the
>priests, and the Levites, and the singers, and the porters, and the
>Nethinims, unto Jerusalem, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes the
>king."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Where are any of the northern tribes mentioned here? No. They are
not.
>
>The fact is, God made it clear in scripture that the northern
>Kingdom was still identified with the southern Kingdom, even in the
>midst of the time of division.
>
>2nd Chronicles 11:15-16
>
>"And he ordained him priests for the high places, and for the
>devils, and for the calves which he had made.
>And after them out of all the tribes of Israel such as set their
>hearts to seek the LORD God of Israel came to Jerusalem, to
>sacrifice unto
>the LORD God of their fathers."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
This is out of context. It is referring to the reign of Rehoboam son
of Solomon and long before the Assyrian exile.
>
>2nd Chronicles 21:1-2
>"Now Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers, and was buried with his
>fathers in the city of David. And Jehoram his son reigned in his
>stead. And he had brethren the sons of Jehoshaphat, Azariah, and
>Jehiel, and Zechariah, and Azariah, and Michael, and Shephatiah:
>all these were the sons of Jehoshaphat king of Israel."
>
YAIR DAVIDI REPLIES:
Same as before. Speaks in the next verse of the fact that in practice
Jehoshaphat ruled ONLY over Judah: 
[2-Chronicles 21:3] AND THEIR
FATHER GAVE THEM GREAT GIFTS OF SILVER, AND OF GOLD, AND OF PRECIOUS
THINGS, WITH FENCED CITIES IN JUDAH: BUT THE KINGDOM GAVE HE TO
JEHORAM; BECAUSE HE WAS THE FIRSTBORN.
                                        END PART 1 of 2
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